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GoPro vs. the competition

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    GoPro vs. the competition

    So have any of you tried the other POV sport cameras on the market? Namely the Contour?

    There are a ton of camera reviews out there that always declare the GoPro Hero as the winner (for obvious reasons ). I'm just curious to see if any members have had first hand experience with the Contour or other cameras for that matter.
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    Actually considered getting an Oregon Scientific HD Camera a few months ago (after already getting a GoPro) because the price is great, however it seemed kinda cheap and with all the features it at such a low price, it didnt seem like it would be a good quality camera. It was about $200 at a local store and had GPS, an LCD, remote...but no mic
    Great price, but seemed kinda cheap...and NO MIC!!!

    http://us.oregonscientific.com/cat-A...on-Camera.html
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    I would say the contour is more sleek-looking and maybe "feels" better when mounted on your helmet but that's about all it has over the GoPro. The quality is unmatched.
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    Yup, and not only is it the quality that sets the GoPro above all else is the number of included accessories. Yes, there are some that others have included with the camera, but the GoPro's come with a great variety of mounts.
    Once you factor in accessories like an LCD screen, remote control and some additional mounts, the cost of a GoPro cam really add up...but the quality is more than worth it.
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    The Drift maybe?

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    I know of a few different POV cameras similar to the GoPro..I honestly wouldn't buy a majority of them though.

    Contour HD
    Drift
    V.I.O.
    Liquid Image (scuba goggles and ski goggles with built-in camera)
    Cam Sports
    Oregon Scientific
    Starnex
    Hoyt Technologies
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    Edited the previous post. It was an Oregon Scientific camera

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    I went with a 2011 Tachyon HD helmet cam. I was impressed with the neat YouTube videos touting the camera. However, after owning one, I suspect that the videos were highly edited to make the quality more professional. I can't think of any camera with worse sound. Tachyon dropped their original XC camera to go to the HD, instead. The company's reply to the crappy sound quality of the microphone in the camera was, "it's an action camera and most folk overdub music, anyway." The remote was virtually useless, as it only worked from a certain distance and the led was in the front of the camera. This meant that you had to waste part of any video by checking to see if the camera was actually functioning. The camera itself conducted sound badly through the body. The service from the factory was not very good, in my opinion. I got very frustrated quickly, especially when I read in their tiny print that the HD camera was not well suited for Windows Vista. I believe I used the camera maybe for two months or so before I shelved it. In that time I added an external mic to improve the sound quality. The inside release for removal of the battery is really difficult to work on that camera and getting the battery case out from it is often a real pain. The reviews I had seen before always rated the Tachyon as good as a Contour, but I can't say I ever read a really good review of the Organ Scientific cameras. The Tachyon had the hinge pin fall out from the back of the camera one day. I replaced it with a paper clip. I added a wind sock to improve the sound quality. I keep it stored away, as I probably would have to retrain my brain to re-learn how to use it again. I am so much more happy with my GoPro, that I don't even want to think of pulling out the Tachyon again.

    The GoPro has some of the same basic problems as the Tachyon though.
    The snap attachment to the clear plastic case is poorly made and should be sold by GoPro for any replacement. There are really no clear instructions of how to assemble it should your's pop off and you have to assemble the two seperate pieces again. I just had that happen this past week. It was a real pain, too.
    The off/on button is difficult to press on at times.
    The led should be moved to the rear or at least to the side. Anyone using this on a motorcycle has to bend over to see if the led is flashing or not or a lot of good video opportunities can be lost.
    The icons are very, very tiny and not easy to read for someone who does not have eagle vision.
    The instruction pdf manual is not very well written to guide a newby through the various settings or modes.
    The sound is much, much better than most helmet cams, but an option for an external mic would certainly be nice.
    It lacks a remote control.
    The battery is very difficult to remove. I found a fix to that problem by attaching a pice of scotch tape that was folded to make a tab to pull the battery out. I even did this trick to my GoPro camera so I can easily remove it from the clear plastic case more easily.
    The case has no dedicated tether strap attachments to it. I found a fix for this with using a fish leader and putting it onto the screw for the mount.
    The price of the HERO 960 has been reduced recently. I plan to obtain another one. The new price is much better for that basic camera. I am very, very content with it.
    I wish the company also included a lense cover for the camera and for those times when you use it outside the stock clear plastic camera case. I know there are DIY caps or even some places that sell them, but I just think that should be a part of the stock supplies that come with the camera.
    The Tachyon camera has a bigger supply of mount options. They are also made better for that camera then what I have seen with the GoPro stuff.
    The quality of video is much better with the GoPro than the Tachyon, in my opinion. That includes the still photos, as well.

    All in all, I love my GoPro already. I have also used a flip camera, but the problem with them was that they chronically kept changing their programming. Each time I got used to a program, it seemed to always change with more bells and jangles that I didn't need. It made downloading a chore. They went to the HD models and the old stock flips became obsolete. However, that said, I have drug my old flip on the aspault and torn the heck out of the body of the camera. It still works like a Timex watch though, so I keep it handy. It too had the led to the front though. :-( My understanding is that the flip camera manucacturer sold the camera and it is no longer being made, even though sales were great for it. It was overpriced for the high end ones, but was so handy that any novice could understand and use it pretty easily though.

    Let's face it, most folk make videos as a semi-novice and post to YouTube. Most folk do not want to spend endless hours in editing programs to come up with a clip that shows endless scenes of shrubs, trails, bushed, dirt, road, highway stripes or those things so common to anyone filming surf clips or sail clips. My 960 may be very low end for what it is, but it has everything I need as a non-pro. The price is now more tolerable on it and the quality is A1. I don't need all the additional bells and jangles for what I film. I found the http://eyeofmine website to have a good tutorial and pdf instruction cheat sheet that helped me learn the functions and modes of the camera. I wish the company had a better step-by-step user's guide though. I fully plan on picking up another GoPro HERO 960 to have as a spare. I'll probably make a pair of book ends of my old flip and Tachyon cameras. Even with not having all the goodies I liested above, I can live with what my GoPro does have. Many of the problems I discussed of my GoPro are easily fixed with DIY fixes, so I am pleased with it, so far. When I contacted the company for questions regarding video editing, sd cards and readers, I got a quick reply and an offer to rethink it if their answers didn't help me or fix the problem.
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    Great reviews!!!

    With the new HD Hero2, some of your grips with the original Hero have been addressed!
    The cryptic menus have been replaced by plain english menus, though they are still likely very small letters. There is now an LED on all sides. And a remote will be available in Feb!

    If you are looking to get another GoPro, it would be well worth it to consider getting a Hero2 instead, you wont regret it!

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    Actually, they are not specifically gripes as if I were really bitching about it. More like just things I noticed from the 960 and that I had run into with my Tachyon. I can pretty well adapt and live with my 960 as it is. The extra camera will be a gift, so I can't really press to hard to have the person swing for the higher priced camera, even with all the extras. I love my 960 and having an extra one would still be nice. I'd recommend the 960 to anyone. I am in no way a pro, so cheap and easy with the 960 is still fine by me.
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